[CARPA] Fwd: Re: swapping to Metformin XR
susan
susan.thomas at nghealth.com
Thu Apr 19 10:18:17 EST 2007
I've certainly encountered the same resistance due to tablet size. Most
of the people out around Warburton prefer to take x2 500mg tabs because
of the size issue.
Dr Susan Thomas
Ngaanyatjarra Health Service
Christine.Connors at nt.gov.au wrote:
> feedback to date from most Top end DMO's is that few are using it
> Rosemary Lee did try it, but found patients struggled with the size of tablet
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> I am finding such a lot of non-compliance amongst the Aboriginal diabetic
> population and I'm slowly changing all my patients over to SR metformin (up to
> 2gms) in the hope that there may be more compliance by a once daily dose in the
> morning - to be had with their weetbix or porridge! - So far seems to be
> working. Just watch the Kidneys! - Mike.
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> Would be good to have input from a few more people on this topic.
> I haven't tried it with any of my patients yet.
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> On 18/04/2007 at 8:18 PM Ciara.OSullivan at nt.gov.au <Ciara.OSullivan at nt.gov.au>
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>> Hi there
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>> The recommended maximum dose of metformin XR is 2 g daily, which is pretty
>> much in line with the total dose of standard metformin we are mostly using
>> now.
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>> Ideally metformin XR is taken nocte ... but this is not very practical and
>> I think we just have to compromise over this detail.
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>> Cheers - Ciara
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>> -----Christine Connors/THS/NTG wrote: -----
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>> To: Ciara O'Sullivan/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG
>> From: Christine Connors/THS/NTG
>> Date: 04/16/2007 10:01AM
>> cc: Alan Evans/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG, Heinz Deiter/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG, John
>> Hester/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG, Louise Elliott/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG, Nick
>> Tyllis/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG, russell.thompson at wynhealth.org.au, Stephen
>> Brady/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG, Stephen Foster/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG, wombat at octa4.net.au
>> Subject: Re: swapping to Metformin XR
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>> so what is other people's experience
>> will patients take the 4 tabs to make 2gm daily or do they prefer the
>> usual 1gm bd?
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>> Ciara: apart from the obvious issue of big tablets, is there any issues
>> taking metformin XR as 3gm single daily dose?
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>> Dr. Christine Connors
>> Program Director PCD
>> NT Department of Health & Community Services
>> Phone: (08) 8922 8218
>> Fax: (08) 8922 7714
>> Mobile: 0401 116 121
>> email: christine.connors at nt.gov.au
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>> Alan Evans/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG, Stephen Foster/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG, John
>> Hester/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG, Louise Elliott/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG, Nick
>> Tyllis/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG, Heinz Deiter/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG,
>> russell.thompson at wynhealth.org.au
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>> Christine Connors/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG, wombat at octa4.net.au, Stephen
>> Brady/THS/NTG at NTGeMAG
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>> Subject
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>> Re: swapping to Metformin XR
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>> Hi team
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>> Metformin XR is now available in most remote clinics.
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>> I would like to emphasise that metformin XR and standard metformin 500 mg
>> tablets are equivalent and when swapping from a usual treatment dose of
>> standard metformin of 1 g bd, you need to prescribe metformin XR 4 tablets
>> daily. No down-titration is needed with subsequent up-titration.
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>> YES!!! The metformin XR tablets are pretty big and are actually the same
>> size (but bulkier) than metformin 1 g tablets. You need to show the
>> patients what they are getting as some patients are horrified and refuse
>> to swap.
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>> I think using metformin XR in usual treatment doses of 2 g per day is very
>> useful for patients on few other tablets. However use of metformin XR
>> poses some real problems for us as clinicians; on the one hand we want to
>> provide convenient once daily medications (improves compliance) but on the
>> other hand, prescribing 4 whoppers in addition to a handful of other
>> morning medications is very off putting for many patients (reduces
>> compliance).
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>> This is the doctors' s dilemma. However, the solution is not to prescribe
>> half the previous standard dose of meformin (ie swapping from metfrormin 1
>> g bd to metformin XR 1 g od) which potentially deprives the patient of
>> useful treatment, and this is what I am seeing on a lot of the scripts at
>> the moment!
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>> Cheers - CIara
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